Share with us what is happening in your ZK this week. September 29, 2023
Swimming with Ideas
Another installment of the What Are You Working On? thread. Add to this thread by telling us what is happening in and around your ZK journey. Join the community and enlighten us about your knowledge path trajectory. I do this for selfish reasons. It helps me clarify my goals and visualize my thinking. And sometimes, a conversation sparks an idea worth exploring.
Ideas I'm thinking about:
- My life is slowly imploding.
- How I can be compassionate to myself. Let the breath coddle, hug, nurture, and fill me with wonder.
- The tutoring possibilities of OpenAI's ChatGPT.
- Blogging my notes.
Things I'm reading:
Lispector, Clarice and Costa, Margaret Jull and Patterson, Robin and Valente, Paulo Gurgel. Too much of life: the complete crônicas. 2022.
Siegel, Ronald. The extraordinary gift of being ordinary and finding happiness right where you are. 2022.
Blum, Andrew. The weather machine: a journey inside the forecast. 2019.
Davis, Lydia. Essays one. 2020.
Music I'm listening to:
The 28-hour Jazz for Study Spotify playlist
★★★★★
The "My rolling ten-day zettel production" is produced by a script for attachment to my daily journaling template. I do my journaling in Bear to keep personal journaling separate from my knowledge work.
Let me know if you want to see any of these notes.
My ten day zettel production
Will Simpson
I must keep doing my best even though I'm a failure. My peak cognition is behind me. One day soon I will read my last book, write my last note, eat my last meal, and kiss my sweetie for the last time.
kestrelcreek.com
Howdy, Stranger!
Comments
Ideas I'm thinking about:
Things I'm reading:
Music I'm listening to:
Zettels of the week
I am a Zettler
@Sascha, thanks for sharing what you are up to this week. Your "Zettels of the week" are always diverse and interesting. As a spoon maker, I was intrigued by your zettel "The Spoon". Would you mind sharing your thoughts on spoons?
Will Simpson
I must keep doing my best even though I'm a failure. My peak cognition is behind me. One day soon I will read my last book, write my last note, eat my last meal, and kiss my sweetie for the last time.
kestrelcreek.com
It's a story about how I started my quest for meaning. I left a spoon on the floor when I lived alone with no furniture other than my desk). Days turned into weeks and the spooned started staring at me. Then I decided to actually go for meaning, Das Ding an Sich.
I am a Zettler
Ideas I'm thinking about:
Things I'm reading: (still selfhelp...)
Music I'm listening to:
Zettels of the last week
Over the last week, I've tested the example Jupyter NoteBook file
provide by OpenAI. So basically, it's kind of building a search
engine to the Amazon review database. I successfully created a
minimum version of it using my own data, and I can understand how
to use this in a better system. Then I am trying to implement this
query system within Emacs. It's not finished yet. It's still in
progress.
First is about how to extract the identifier ID from the database
file $ sqlite3 /mnt/database/org-roam.db "SELECT id FROM nodes
LIMIT 10;" > /mnt/database/id_output.dat
from a single valid org ID, I can pre-processing the content of
that org room nodes information
To read a list of the Org-ID, I can use the following functions to
prepare the content that I want to embed into my system.
My personal journaling is part of my Zettelkasten. I'm using the Bullet Journaling method from Ryder Carroll* which can easily be integrated. But what are the benefits from keeping both separate? Also with different tools?
*) Carroll, Ryder. The Bullet Journal Method - Track the Past, Order the Present, Design the Future, 2018.
Edmund Gröpl
Writing is your voice. Make it easy to listen.
I take a similar approach, although it is set up in NotePlan rather than The Archive. I still use The Archive for my Zettelkasten, but I use NotePlan for all my planning and scheduling, so it just makes sense to have my Bullet Journal in NotePlan as well. In fact, NotePlan is entirely capable of creating and maintaining a Zettlekasten, and can directly access all the ZK plain text files produced by The Archive. So within NotePlan, I have access to my full Zettlekasten plus Bullet Journal. But I still prefer to write and maintain my zettels using The Archive.
Sorry, if I had more time, I'd have written you a shorter response.
I'm a list maker, and here is my evolving list of reasons to keep personal journaling separate from knowledge management.
We've discussed this in the past on the forums. Here are but a few relevant threads.
Will Simpson
I must keep doing my best even though I'm a failure. My peak cognition is behind me. One day soon I will read my last book, write my last note, eat my last meal, and kiss my sweetie for the last time.
kestrelcreek.com
Thank you for your long answer. It takes me some time in reading and thinking. Here is my learning:
Here's why:
Methodology: Different methodologies and workflows may naturally lend themselves to one approach over the other. For example:
Separation Based on Methodology: If your chosen methodology for knowledge management (e.g., Zettelkasten) emphasizes structured, interconnected notes, it may be more compatible with keeping personal journaling separate. This separation can help maintain the integrity and coherence of your knowledge base.
Integration Based on Methodology: Conversely, if your methodology encourages integrating personal experiences and reflections into your knowledge management system for context and insight, an integrated approach may be more suitable.
Personal Mindset and Preferences: Personal mindset and individual preferences play a significant role in this choice:
Structured vs. Freeform: Some individuals naturally gravitate towards structured and organized approaches in their work, while others prefer more freeform and unstructured methods. Your personal mindset, in terms of how you prefer to work and organize your thoughts, can influence your choice.
Emotional Connection: Your comfort with mixing personal emotions and experiences with structured knowledge work can be a personal preference. Some people feel that an integrated approach helps them connect emotionally with their knowledge, while others prefer a more clinical separation.
Goals and Objectives: Your specific goals and objectives can also impact your choice:
Research and Professionalism: If your primary goal is professional research and knowledge dissemination, you might lean towards separation to maintain a high level of professionalism and clarity in your work.
Personal Growth and Insight: On the other hand, if you value personal growth, self-reflection, and insight generation, you may be more inclined to integrate personal journaling with your knowledge management to draw connections between your experiences and ideas.
Flexibility and Experimentation: Some of us may experiment with both approaches over time to find what works best for them. Your mindset can be open to trying different methods and adjusting based on the outcomes and personal satisfaction.
In summary, the choice between separating personal journaling and adopting an integrated approach depends on a combination of your chosen methodologies, your personal mindset, your workflow preferences, and your overarching goals. It's not solely one or the other; rather, it's about finding the balance that aligns with your unique needs and objectives.
As you know, I prefer the "Integrated Approach": https://forum.zettelkasten.de/discussion/2333/migration-from-bullet-journal-to-zettelkasten
Sorry, if I had more time, I'd have written you a shorter response. ;-)
Edmund Gröpl
Writing is your voice. Make it easy to listen.
@Will @Edmund
Haha! Does that mean if you'd had more time, you both would have used your zettel-writing skills?
A lot of journals. But all included in my Zettelkasten.
Edmund Gröpl
Writing is your voice. Make it easy to listen.
@Edmund Nice!!
It seems to me that there are two polarized topics or ideas involved
here. I'm not saying that one is radically opposite to the other one,
but kind of showing two extremes.
Yin: Separation Based, Structured, Research and Professionalism Yang:
Integration Based, Freeform, Personal Growth and Insight
Again, from this brain map, clearly, I see a structure but at the same
time, I also see those random things embedded into your system, mainly
the journaling part or log part, or diary part. I like the idea that
you mix a set of targets for the thing that you want to revisit.
I can have an idea about revisiting those things in my database, but I
don't have a clear mind. For example, I have a vague idea that I have
to make things clear. If I see tens of headline just within the first
subheading, I feel stressed and I want to try to minimize their
numbers. Also, I want to extend the idea into a deeper level. I also
try to find when I revisit those things. Basically, it's when I feel
relaxed, when the environmental trigger is there. Based on those
ideas, I try to re-enter that kind of situation. Another thing is that
I want to reach out to the outside world to discuss the idea. That's
where I find ideas, or that's when I find most of the time I revisit a
certain topic. On a personal level, I tend to reread books, but I
don't have a fixed schedule. Mostly, it's when things pops up, I have
to do that and then I revisit the book I read. Or sometimes I just
randomly visit it and know that it's just a note for a book I read. At
that time, I'm probably going to revisit it. Also, when I try to think
about it in my habit, I'll probably revisit tons of notes I've just
written or discussed with other people. And of course, when I need to
write a program, I have to revisit a lot of things. The log file, the
idea that I want to achieve.
Thanks for sharing this brain map. I'm probably going to have a point
of view next time I revisit something, and I probably will apply this
map to consideration.
"idea, memory, moment, emotion, skill". For example, when I read a
book, when I saw a book I want to revisit, I probably think about
three ideas that I've learned from this book. Maybe I have some memory
about a particular idea that I actually used in my life, and that's
going to bring some memory, moments, back to the time I revisited
those notes. And of course, that will bring a certain emotion. Also I
definitely think about if there are any skills that I, it really
depends on this idea or this set of ideas.
The last item in your general tips is something I want to do, but I
don't have a clear mind previously. For example, I try to think about,
okay, in what context I'm going to set this node again. So you're
actually providing some action, adding a tag, then probably adding a
link, and probably adding new questions I'm not clear about, original
ideas. And maybe during the process, I have some new ideas I can
capture and then process later.
Edmund Gröpl
Writing is your voice. Make it easy to listen.