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Zettelizers?

I'm thinking there needs to be a snappy word for Zettelkasten users. Definitely one in English; maybe in German too. Zettelkästner? Verzettler?

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  • Atomizers for the English speakers?

  • I definitely miss something short and sweet like verzetteln in English ("to make Zettel", with the taste of very vague connotations about losing oneself in the details and fertilizing fields with manure), so I'm looking forward to suggestions that spring forth from here :)

    Author at Zettelkasten.de • https://christiantietze.de/

  • Member of the Captain Kasten Crew

    I am a Zettler

  • Please ignore my Züers suggestion. It sucks.

    I offer the following instead.

    Zettelphile -
    1. one who has a love, interest, or enthusiasm for the Zettelkasten Method.
    2. a user of the Zettelkasten Method.
    3. a Zettelkasten devotee

  • Why not plain and simple Zettlers?
    You are settling something both conceptually (even though that may be a journey in itself) and in a way akin to settlers do: exploring and making a way of living in new territory.

    I am a Zettler, ie 'one who zettles'
    research: pragmatism, 4e cognitive science, metaphor | you can't be neutral on a moving train

  • Being an English only speaker I love the mystery invoked by the German term "Zettelkasten". Turning it into an English sound bite would, in my opinion, infantilize the process.
    For example:
    Team Intellisense
    Heros with Super Powers

    When people ask, I keep it simple and tell them 'I make notes in my Zettelkasten' and leave a space open for them to ask questions.

    Vote up @MikeBraddock's Zettelphile for the possessive noun.
    Zettelkasting for the verb.

    Will Simpson
    I must keep doing my best even though I'm a failure. My peak cognition is behind me. One day soon I will read my last book, write my last note, eat my last meal, and kiss my sweetie for the last time.
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  • @John said:
    Why not plain and simple Zettlers?
    You are settling something both conceptually (even though that may be a journey in itself) and in a way akin to settlers do: exploring and making a way of living in new territory.

    This is my pick. (No, not my own..)

    @Eurobubba this thread asks for a poll. :smile:

    I am a Zettler

  • Another vote for Zettler, ie 'one who zettles'

  • Zettelboxer

  • A word for Zettelkasten users.

    For some reason, I find this discussion fascinating.

    Every word we offer will have a different connotation.

    Zetteler
    Zettelkastener
    Zettelerist or Zettelist
    Zettelarian
    Zettelogoist
    Zettelphile
    Zettelosopher
    Zettelboxer
    Zettelmason
    Zettelartist
    Zettelpoet
    Zkologist
    Zkostopher

    Kasteners
    Kastenist Kastenerist
    Kastenarians

    Archivist
    Archiver
    Indexer

    Zettelmaker
    Kastenmaker
    Kasteners
    Kaster

    Zenius - the brilliant people, maybe the act of Zettelkasting, qualifies us all.
    Zindexer or Zendexer
    Zetster
    Zipster
    Zkister
    Zeekster
    Kindexer
    Kzindexer
    Zkindexer
    Zunatic
    Zeeker or Zkeeker Zker pronounced the same
    Zkaster
    Slipboxer
    Second-brainer
    Externaler
    Cognitionkeeper
    Cognitionkastener

    UID-first ______
    UID-last ______
    UID-only ______
    Title-only ______
    Analog ________
    Digital ________
    Bitchin, total freakin __________ from Mars. Apology to Will.

    @Eurobubba said:
    I'm thinking there needs to be a snappy word for Zettelkasten users. Definitely one in English;

    I think he means something universal that sounds interesting, cool, and catchy.

    @Will said:
    Turning it into an English sound bite would, in my opinion, infantilize the process.

    I am in total agreement with Wiil's point. It would be easy to descend into the depths of the ridiculous, absurd, and undignified.

    I submit the checkboxes should be:

    [ ] - Universal
    [ ] - SImple
    [ ] - Snappy, interesting, cool, fun
    [ ] - Respectful
    [ ] - Complementary

    Zetteler or Zettelkastener checks the most boxes so far than others I thought of or heard.
    In my opinion, it doesn't check the snappy checkbox. But that is just one Zettelphile's opinion.

    If others added to the discussion, the list would grow, and I would really enjoy it if they did.
    Zettelers unite, keep the process going.

  • @ctietze said:
    I definitely miss something short and sweet like verzetteln in English ("to make Zettel", with the taste of very vague connotations about losing oneself in the details and fertilizing fields with manure), so I'm looking forward to suggestions that spring forth from here :)

    FWIW, in my own jottings I've been using 'zettelize' for the process of distilling external inputs into zettels. Of course it lacks any of the connotations of the German word and would probably be meaningless to anyone who isn't on this forum, but it's good enough for personal journaling and task planning. 🤷‍♂️

  • In the spirit of Will's signature, I propose...

    Zettelnaut

    unless that is something weird or negative in German...

  • Zettelheads or Zettelkopfen (?)

  • @Will said:
    Zettelkasting for the verb.

    That suggests broadcasting (and narrowcasting, podcasting, etc.), which would be misleading.

  • @donblanco said:
    In the spirit of Will's signature, I propose...

    Zettelnaut

    unless that is something weird or negative in German...

    Oi. A little bit. It means basically "Zetteltesticle" :wink:

    I am a Zettler

  • edited March 2020

    @Sascha said:

    @donblanco said:
    In the spirit of Will's signature, I propose...

    Zettelnaut

    unless that is something weird or negative in German...

    Oi. A little bit. It means basically "Zetteltesticle" :wink:

    Ha! OK, well in that case I retract (no pun intended) my suggestion! lol

    I did look it up before suggesting it, however. Google Translate says "sticky note"

  • @donblanco said:

    @Sascha said:

    @donblanco said:
    In the spirit of Will's signature, I propose...

    Zettelnaut

    unless that is something weird or negative in German...

    Oi. A little bit. It means basically "Zetteltesticle" :wink:

    Ha! OK, well in that case I retract (no pun intended) my suggestion! lol

    I did look it up before suggesting it, however. Google Translate says "sticky note"

    Just kidding. :wink:

    (Christian was against that joke. But I couldn't resist)

    Zettelnaut has the same connotations in German as in English.

    I am a Zettler

  • ZettelGelehrte Faustkämpfer, does this actually translate to slip-fisted pugilist?

    This is rich: Faustkämpfer mit rutschigen Zettel-Fäusten.

    I played the audio translation of these over and over. German has such cool words.

  • @Sascha said:

    @donblanco said:

    @Sascha said:

    @donblanco said:
    In the spirit of Will's signature, I propose...

    Zettelnaut

    unless that is something weird or negative in German...

    Oi. A little bit. It means basically "Zetteltesticle" :wink:

    Ha! OK, well in that case I retract (no pun intended) my suggestion! lol

    I did look it up before suggesting it, however. Google Translate says "sticky note"

    Just kidding. :wink:

    (Christian was against that joke. But I couldn't resist)

    Zettelnaut has the same connotations in German as in English.

    I've been punked! LOL

    In this case I insist that Zettelnaut is reinstated.

    Alternatives: Zettelkästenaut, Zettelkästener - that's all I've got...

  • @donblanco

    I am using "Zettelnaut" in the second edition of the book btw. :smile:

    I am a Zettler

  • edited June 2021

    I think I have to study the german behind Zettelkasten but as the objetive is not only to create a zettelkasten but think with it, my first thought when reading this topis was zettelthinker. I really have to rescue my mostly forgotten german skills! I hope my proposal is not too dull!

  • How about something more bureaucratic, such as Zweiter Beauftragter für Administrative Zettelkasten Fragen.

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  • Like zettelnaut, zettler, zettelhead, and a few other mentioned...

    To add to the mix.....

    How about zettelistas or zettelrati ?

    :)

    Mark

  • @MikeBraddock said:
    ZettelGelehrte Faustkämpfer, does this actually translate to slip-fisted pugilist?

    This is rich: Faustkämpfer mit rutschigen Zettel-Fäusten.

    I played the audio translation of these over and over. German has such cool words.

    This one has killed my mind, it is awesome and marvellous ! Surrealist and fun, but the only thing that fits is the slip ! :)

    Zettlers is cool, Zettelkasteners, Zettelnauts comes with the idea of exploration and this is cool and accurate.

    I really like this one too :

    @manouchk said:
    zettelthinker

    But did a final name emerge from all of this beautifull creativity I have read on this topic ? :)

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