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Before I forget: Many thanks to your discussion. I slowly see how I felt short in explaining the concept.
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Just a note: The Zettel Assistant under GPT 4o now provides revised Zettels based on its recommendations. The Zettel Assistant GPT available at Zettel Assistant GPT. I suppose it will never be a featured GPT.
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I am sorry to resuscitate rather older discussion, but I have missed it and it is very interesting distinction for me, about : idea x focus of attention x physical medium of information.
As I understand it, many misunderstandings in Zettelkasten discussions stem from the fact that we do not distinguish between note as physical element/physical medium and note as informational element/semantic construct. I see so often in discussions e.g. regarding Obsidian: "I follow Zettelkasten methodology and thus I create rather short atomised notes/files (one file per idea) which I connect via MOC" But strictly speaking, this is not something what would stem from "Zettelkasten methodology" in general at all. It is just one particular way, how to operationalise it. The most popular at the moment. But that is all.
E.g. Luhmann did not follow "one Zettel = one idea" rule at all. Sometimes, he wrote one idea on many Zettels (with Zettel being physical medium/element), because his idea (information element) was long enough to cover two or even more Zettels.
In the same way, one file = one idea methodology (which I cited above with Obsidian example) is not any stricter ZK philosophy, than e.g. using one long Word docs file with text flow interrupted by many levels of subheadings (each subheading thus denoting one idea) and inner bookmarks and inter-links between them. One long Word file could thus (theoretically) mimic whole Luhmann Zettelkasten database.
We can again see that there is a difference between physical element (file, word file, small Zettel, A4 page) and informational element (which is - one atomised idea). Luhmann chose his format of physical elements mainly because of (1) ease of adding new information elements in between other already existing information elements (by creating and numbering new Zettels) and (2) ease of re-shuffling ideas for concrete use (writing articles etc) and ease of storing them back to the system in the end of the process (due to numbering of Zettels). But - it is important to notice - there was not strict link or even synonym between Zettel (physical element) and idea (information element).
Now, lets go back to IDEA versus FOCUS OF ATTENTION distinction.
We today do not have to choose specific physical elements/medium (files, notes, documents in apps) because of ease of adding new information there or re-shuffling them. This is all easily done by simple editing the files or linking them. So we can choose them in other way. And - one of the main criteria - should be - convenience of use. And this convenience of use is almost synonym (for me) with focus of attention.
Focus of attention is more contextual than "idea". Focus of attention is also something rather pervasive/probabilistic. I can have many "focus of attention" when viewing the same idea (I can perceive it in context of source article, some topic, some current goal etc) but one focus usually pervades. And this focus should/could very often influence the way how I want to see this information (in what context, in what view) = which can be very often (maybe not always) translated into physical element = file or note or document. When I want to see some idea (with idea for me being lower level of organisation) in some particular focus/context, I should create physical element according to it - if I want to see some idea mainly as separate atomised note (and only viewing backlinks or links to it), I should create such file/note. If I want to see some idea mainly in the focus of similar ideas, I should create such file/note of all connected ideas (aka Folgenzettels or long notes with subheadings per one idea), or transclusions/embeds of many individual atomised ideas in one thematic file etc. (based on possibilities of specific PKM app)
The principle of atomisation is not broken at all when I put many ideas in one long file, provided that I have other means of denoting their atomisation than presence in separate physical elements. These means can be e.g subheadings, columns, individual fields in a table etc).
This is for me the main distinction: IDEA is rather intrinsically defined, it is one coherent information/semantic element in the scale/density based on my research/personal subjective needs, FOCUS OF ATTENTION is for me rather contextual (how I want to see these ideas?, what I want to see? What I do not want to see? What I want to hide from attention by using only link instead of whole text etc). This is of course not any strict dichotomy, but this is how I think about them. And the choice of physical entity (one file, one document, one note) is for me usually controlled more by this convenience of use = most pervasive focus of attention, rather than fact that something is atomised idea.
The topic is "one note = one object of attention," which isn't equivalent to "one Zettel = one idea" and does not mean each idea must fit within a single Zettel. It's also true that there may be more than one focus of attention. Structure notes allow for more than one focus of attention through thematically related annotated WikiLinks, any of which may refer to a note that has a single focus of attention.
The Zettel Assistant GPT instructions attempt to define 'single focus' and 'multiple focus' so that a Large Language Model can critique Zettels conforming to my format. This format includes a YAML header with an ID and a title, followed by a reference section title; an H1 header with the ID and title repeated; a main body; a SEE ALSO subsection; and a References subsection.
Here are the GPT instructions, which include definitions and explanations suitable for a Large Language Model that may also be helpful for humans. There is room for improvement (I made some changes today). The GPT instructions seem to work better with ChatGPT 4o than ChatGPT 4. ChatGPT 4o offers suggested revisions in Markdown format.
Zettel Critique Assistant GPT Instructions, Version 2024.05.19.11
Definitions and Conventions
The terms MUST, MUST NOT, SHOULD, SHOULD NOT, and MAY (from now on RFC 2119 terms) apply as in RFC 2119. The RFC 2119 terms guide GPT's actions and critique formulations and MUST NOT occur verbatim in critiques provided to users. Translate the RFC 2119 terms into actionable, user-friendly language.
Reference Element Types
WikiLink: A markdown link used within Zettels to interlink them within the Zettelkasten. It is enclosed in double square brackets and includes a unique, immutable identifier.
Title-only WikiLink: A WikiLink followed immediately by the title of the linked Zettel without additional annotations or explanations, adhering strictly to the format:
[[UniqueID]] Zettel T.le.`Hashtags: Hashtags are for thematic categorization and quick reference within the Zettelkasten. Hashtags typically occur in the SEE ALSO section of a Zettel.
Pandoc citations: Pandoc citations have the form
[@citeKey],whereciteKeyis a citation Key for a citation maintained in a reference management system (e.g., Zotero).URL: a uniform resource locator for external content.
Note Types in Zettelkasten
Single-focus Zettels: Focus on one main idea or topic for clarity and precision. Single-focus Zettels form the core of the Zettelkasten.
Structure Notes: Outline and connect Single-focus Zettels under broader themes. They contain sections with annotated WikiLinks to individual Zettels.
Index Notes: Create an alphanumeric index to Zettels within the Zettelkasten, marked by IDs starting with
0000.0000.0. The index note titles are: A-B-C, D-E-F, G-H-I, J-K-L, M-N-O, P-Q-R, S-T-U, V-W-X, Y-Z, and 0-9.Zettel Construction Guidelines
ID and Title:
Main Body:
SEE ALSO Section:
References:
Instructions for Zettel Critique Assistant GPT
Role Definition:
Critique Guidelines:
Content Formatting:
References and Context:
Feedback Application:
Conversion of Zettels:
Construction of Structure Notes:
Additional Guidelines for Providing Critiques
MUST ensure all feedback aligns with Zettelkasten principles, format, and content guidelines, especially in maintaining the structural and thematic integrity of Zettels.
MUST NOT propose changes that dilute the focus of Single-focus Zettels.
GPT Feedback Mechanism
Zettel GitHub. Zettel Wiki Erdős #2. Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. -- Piet Hein. PROBLEMS. Grooks, 1966. CC BY-SA 4.0.
My post is rather long, sorry for that. This (one Zettel - one idea) is only context to my reasoning. My reaction to the subject of this thread ( one note one focus of attention) is in the second part of my text, where I agree with the notion but I want to explain why and how I see distinction between idea and object of attention.