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What Is Next for Atomicity?

SaschaSascha
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Hi Zettlers,

There are now three articles directly or indirectly addressing atomicity:

  1. The first article by Christian
  2. Indirectly, this article is about the inventory of atoms
  3. The latest and most comprehensive article

There are two open tasks that I see that need to be accomplished:

  1. Rooting the principle of atomicity in the history of PKM and related fields. (Hat tip to @Andy )
  2. Creating a thread through the levels of detail. So, you can start learning with little pre-existing knowledge and then slowly go deeper.

Do you have any comments, wishes, suggestions, or objections?

Live long and prosper
Sascha

I am a Zettler

Comments

  • ctietzectietze

    A demonstration that focuses on extracting notes, maybe? I wonder whether 'how to atomize' is a solvable, explainable task from which newcomers can walk away with confidence in their newfound abilities.

    But at least we can show examples of

    • creating a short note (that looks like it's atomic intuitively),
    • creating a long note (that's atomic but in the Plutonium sense),
    • and splitting up/extracting notes from large ones -- and what the thought process looks like when it turns out you had a molecule, not an atom.

    The theoretical foundation and increased depth would then be accompanied by a down-to-earth, real world show and tell. (In my Epstein videos I show this a bit, but it's buried in hours of footage, not suitable for generation TikTok :))

    Author at Zettelkasten.de • https://christiantietze.de/

  • iylockiylock

    I'm excited for both, but since the ultimate goal of people staying on this site is to make better use of Zettelkasten, I think it would be better to create a thread first.

  • SaschaSascha
    edited August 18

    @ctietze said:
    A demonstration that focuses on extracting notes, maybe? I wonder whether 'how to atomize' is a solvable, explainable task from which newcomers can walk away with confidence in their newfound abilities.

    But at least we can show examples of

    • creating a short note (that looks like it's atomic intuitively),
    • creating a long note (that's atomic but in the Plutonium sense),
    • and splitting up/extracting notes from large ones -- and what the thought process looks like when it turns out you had a molecule, not an atom.

    The theoretical foundation and increased depth would then be accompanied by a down-to-earth, real world show and tell. (In my Epstein videos I show this a bit, but it's buried in hours of footage, not suitable for generation TikTok :))

    Created a task for that these demonstrations.

    @iylock said:
    I'm excited for both, but since the ultimate goal of people staying on this site is to make better use of Zettelkasten, I think it would be better to create a thread first.

    Can you explain?

    Post edited by Sascha on

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  • iylockiylock

    @Sascha said:
    2. Creating a thread through the levels of detail. So, you can start learning with little pre-existing knowledge and then slowly go deeper.

    I was talking about number 2.

  • SaschaSascha

    @iylock said:

    @Sascha said:
    2. Creating a thread through the levels of detail. So, you can start learning with little pre-existing knowledge and then slowly go deeper.

    I was talking about number 2.

    Ah, sometimes I am a little bit stupid. :)

    I am a Zettler

  • andang76andang76
    edited August 18

    I think many people would benefit from examples. A little more complex than the typical hello world examples we tipically find, maybe.

    There's much theory out there. Too much. I'm exhausted of making zettel about new concepts regarding atomicity :-)

    I would cite, as valuable resource about atomicity, even the thread that considered one idea = one focus:

    https://forum.zettelkasten.de/discussion/2846/one-note-one-object-of-attention

  • andang76andang76
    edited August 18

    I don't remember if I've already proposed an idea I have some times ago.

    Zettelkasten Kata.

    In programming context coding katas are a nice idea.

    Some Zettelkasten Kata I would propose:

    1. Atomicity

    Exercise: we choice a text (small article, book chapter, blog post) and try to extract 3–5 perfectly atomic notes.
    Goal: Practice breaking complex ideas into minimal units of knowledge.

    1. Intentional Linking

    Exercise: Write a new note and force yourself to create at least 2–3 links
    Goal: Strengthen the ability to build a network of thoughts instead of a linear archive.

    1. Active Reformulation, conceptualization and decontextualization

    Exercise: Take a quotation or passage from an author and turn it into a note in your own words, without copying, according to your framing of the idea involved.
    Goal: Practice reformulating and truly making the content your own.

    Sascha, I remember your dog example in a video. It was perfect.

    1. Application of Flower Idea Model

    2. Application of Compass Idea Model

    3. Make a chain, a structure, a composition

    Exercise: Choose a theme and create a “chain” of 5–7 notes that explore it from different perspectives.
    Goal: Practice building emergent structures within your Zettelkasten.

    If we agree on the same starting material (which is reasonable understandable to everyone) and we all try our hand at the same material, we can compare our various approaches

  • ctietzectietze

    @andang76 I would love to try this in an online event, too. I never fleshed out the idea, just a "ZK Kata" item in a list :)

    Author at Zettelkasten.de • https://christiantietze.de/

  • SaschaSascha

    @andang76 @ctietze

    Already planned and half-fleshed out.

    Went with the term "drills", but "kata" is better. :)

    I am a Zettler

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