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Upgrade Atomic Thinking to Holistic Thinking


imageUpgrade Atomic Thinking to Holistic Thinking

The brain's analytical way of breaking complex things down into atomic parts is important. But it is far from all that is needed.

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  • Thank you, Sascha, for this insightful article :-)

    I have a question related to this part of the text:

    1. If we follow the barbell method of reading, we do not start with the exact analysis, but in the first reading cycle we look at the source as a whole. In doing so, we only notice individual things that stand out. We stay in right brain mode for as long as we can. We gain a feeling for the source rather than exact knowledge.
    2. In processing, the second reading cycle, we begin the analysis: we dissect the source into individual atomic thoughts. We make full use of the strength of the left hemisphere.
    3. We relate each atomic thought, each note, to other thoughts. This is a difficult step because on the one hand we are still using the analytical and thinking in parts left hemisphere. On the other hand, we have to make the leap to hand over the individual parts to our right hemisphere to create a whole.

    Once we have read the source for the first time, and we are doing the processing, what is better?

    A - Do the analysis of all the individual atomic thoughts (2) and, once that step is done, start relating all the atomic thoughts (3)?

    B - Do the analysis for some individual atomic thoughts (2) and relate them (3) and then continue analysing the source (2) for some more individual atomic thoughts?

    When it comes to short sources or sources with few ideas, I can have them analysed in their entirety and then integrate the knowledge into the Zettelkasten.

    But when it comes to very long sources or sources with a lot of ideas, this workflow does not work so well for me because it is really exhausting to do (2) for the whole source and then apply (3) to the result.

    “If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” —Isaac Newton
    eljardindegestalt.com

  • B, unless you have superhuman memory. :)

    I am a Zettler

  • Thank you!

    I will do that from now on :-)

    “If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” —Isaac Newton
    eljardindegestalt.com

  • This blog post has got me thinking about my zettelkasting practices. I agree that the holistic approach you write about leads to free-flowing creativity. I feel that an active review habit is what, for me, keeps the cycle of re-analyzing and re-creative emersion. I find reviewing old notes sparks new ideas. This is what I love about zettelkasting.

    TLDR

    The following is my note processing my understanding. I love this opportunity to fold analytical thinking with creative imagination that @Sascha has gifted us with.

    Notes are proxies for ideas.
    1. Analytical processes hold ideas at a distance to examine them.
    2. Creative processes intermingle with ideas intimately dancing as moods dictate.
    3. The holistic process marries the analytical and the creative into a powerful chimera.

    It is too easy to discuss using the classical metaphor of the two halves of the brain locked in a war.
    Your use of musical education as a metaphor is refreshing. Like a craftsman, a musician uses both an analytical and creative emersion in back-and-forth dance with an idea to nurture their life. "He ascends into the sky and breaks free from the body's limitations. At the same time, he keeps contact with the earth and feels the ground."

    Ideas are impoverished when only analyzed. The creative process without any understanding is doomed. The flourishing of ideas comes from the interplay between creative, free-flowing associations and analytical work.

    #words_of_wisdom

    It is not the length of the distance our mind has to travel that challenges us. Rather, it is the question of what the first steps are. Once we get going, the path almost goes by itself.

    In this context, I'll go out on a limb, promptly chainsawing it off, and say that the first step is analysis. Start from a place recording fragments of understanding collected in a note. This will start the back-and-forth dance if the idea has potential.

    Metaphorically speaking, the left brain takes what the right brain presents as whole and living and dissects it until it is dead. Our right hemisphere seems at home with the living world of ideas, while the left hemisphere is an industrial complex that rips out the living and feeds its cold machinery with it. Even worse, the left hemisphere seems greedy, holding on to the ideas it has taken out. However, in the end, the ideas should be returned to the right hemisphere to become part of the living world of thought again.

    This seems harsh. Something similar might happen in extreme pathological cases, but I tend to think in gentler terms.

    Paraphrasing Sascha's graceful metaphor.
    Only when we are in touch with the living earth can we truly become creative and soar into the sky.

    Yes, the back-and-forth of analysis and creative ideation connecting ideas is the leap that makes for the paradigm shift that happens when deep in the flow of zettelkasting.

    The life of a zettelnaut soars into the troposphere only when we do more than analyze.

    Will Simpson
    My zettelkasten is for my ideas, not the ideas of others. I will try to remember this. I must keep doing my best even though I'm a failure. My peak cognition is behind me. One day soon, I will read my last book, write my last note, eat my last meal, and kiss my sweetie for the last time.
    kestrelcreek.com

  • I have been lurking on the forums/blogs for awhile, and I happen to have just finished a music degree and teach music at a K-2 school now. I want to keep elaborating on your musician comparison in the article. One thing that occurs in the brains of well-practiced jazz musicians is that the circuits in the brain associated with self-criticism or analysis are suppressed when they are improvising. This is like when we are in the flow of writing or speaking about ideas and we are overcome with excitement or passion about these ideas so that we aren't really analyzing them. These moments are necessary because they lead to things like feedback from other people. (the audience in the case of a musician)

    The process you described of a whole train of thought leaving the right brain to be broken into parts and reassembled is parallel to the "whole-part-whole" approach in music teaching. When I want to teach a brief song to my students, I start by singing the whole song for them. Then I might ask questions that focus their attention on a single part of the song. Then I might have them practice different pieces of the song. I keep connecting parts of the song until they are performing the whole song. Then we can enjoy the flow of performing the whole song together and playing whatever game or dance is associated with the song.

  • edited December 2023

    This page is a gold mine.
    It brings to my awareness many concepts that are implicitly submerged in a good knowledge management process. Now I'm aware why is important the content production in the Zettelkasten

    I've developed many thoughts about, and I've written about in my notes.

    just three:

    1) At the moment I can individuate at least four "tools" that can be used for the third phase of the whole-part-whole process

    • content production from Zettelkasten
    • teaching/explaining from the Feynmann Method
    • autoreview from... Will. I'm using it too, unaware still today, and yes, it really works!
    • i can add a fourth way, intermediate of the three above. It's what is called Learn in public, that is share my knowledge with others online. Doing this, I have to synthetize again my knowledge in a written form, I have to strength it just like Feynmann method, but I receive too a peer review/contribution from others about. Something like Feynman, but bidirectional.

    2) I've found very evocative the examples of musician and sport gesture. If I can add another evocative concept, I think that the synthesis phase fits perfectly as a negative feedback (when used for correction, refinement) / positive feedback (when used for reinforce) of system and control theory, physics and electronics.

    3) I think that there is a strong motivational aspect too.
    Having explicitly a purpose (that imply the need of adopt a synthesis phase) helps a lot on having a more effective knowledge method not only because the synthesis complete the method, but also because the purpose make the knowledge process more engaging. If I have to learn something with a goal in which I can apply it, this process can be view as an engaging challenge or game, rather than a boring task

  • edited March 11

    All the good things written here aside: the left/right hemisphere concept is debunked neuro-bollocks that does not deserve even metaphorical proliferation. See e. g. https://www.oecd.org/education/ceri/neuromyth6.htm

  • edited March 12

    @brsma said:
    All the good things written here aside: the left/right hemisphere concept is debunked neuro-bollocks that does not deserve even metaphorical proliferation. See e. g. https://www.oecd.org/education/ceri/neuromyth6.htm

    Perhaps, you read The Master and His Emissary, which is the foundation of this book. The very "debunking" you linked is addressed in his book. (And it is not dismissed but rather contextualised)

    I suggest that you keep your feet on the ground, when you are not familiar with the general manners of a community that you entered with your first post.

    Post edited by Sascha on

    I am a Zettler

  • @Sascha said:
    I suggest that you keep your feet on the ground, when you are not familiar with the general manners of a community that you entered with your first post.

    You're right – I should not comment when tired. My apologies.

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