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Setevi: expandable note link trees

edited February 16 in Software & Gadgets

Preface

I received a recommendation for the iMapping tool (German only) the other day. I think it's best described as: iMapping is to OneNote what Prezi is to PowerPoint. Take a look at the German videos to get a feel for what the app can do. Look for zoom action, which are quite surprising in the intro video on the website.

Its premise: have a single canvas with (infinite?) zoom and infinite storage to lay out notes and connect them with annotated arrows.

The iMapping tool blog pointed me towards Setevi, which is supposed to be a cure for the "lost-in-hypertext syndrome". That intrigued me. I sometimes get lost in my own Zettelkasten for sure. You know you're "lost in hypertext" when you cannot remember how on earth you got from a Wikipedia page about "cereals" to an article about "euthanasia rollercoaster".

Setevi

So Setevi promises to always provide context by expanding linked pages in place instead of taking you from one page to another.

Here's a demo: http://felixbenzbaldas.de/setevi/en/

Thanks Felix for translating the German demo page for us so we can discuss it here!

Circular link structures will of course result in circular expansion of articles.

This is just a tech demo; I was thinking about how this could be made useful for our daily work. But I have no answer :) Let's hear what you think.

Author at Zettelkasten.de • http://christiantietze.de/

Comments

  • edited February 16

    Thanks, @ctietze, these are some interesting tools. I've always been searching for an app that would be as flexible as my "postit collages" for planning and organizing myself. iMapping looks intriguing.

    Buuuuuuuut!!!! Setevi!!! Yeah! Even has 'vi' in its name :smile: . I woud find it very interesting to write a program (python script, .exe for Win) that converts an entire Zettelkasten or part of it starting from a selected note into the setevi format. That would be awesome, to export to a web space for mobile consumption of notes. I am also thinking of adding a #tags and maybe even a cited sources section for finding relevant notes. #tags and citekeys within a note would also point to (include) referenced notes there. That would eliminate the currently missing search feature to a great extent. Now all that's needed is to know setevi's data format / an exchange format. Can I contact Felix here? I am all fired up :smiley:

  • I suspected something along these lines :D Exporting the Zettelkasten note archive to an interactive Setevi page could provide interesting results when you casually browse in the notes. Or so I'd like to think.

    I have sent Felix a link to this discussion. The Setevi demo page has his email address if you cannot wait to see if he joins :)

    Author at Zettelkasten.de • http://christiantietze.de/

  • @ctietze said:
    I suspected something along these lines :D Exporting the Zettelkasten note archive to an interactive Setevi page could provide interesting results when you casually browse in the notes. Or so I'd like to think.

    I second that. Cool, we're on the same page here :wink:

    I have sent Felix a link to this discussion. The Setevi demo page has his email address if you cannot wait to see if he joins :)

    Done! :smiley:

    I noted that he is from the KIT, I've been to twice as my employer has a cooperation with the KIT. Then I found a photo of him and think I've even seen him there. That would be a cool coincidence. Let's see if he replies. Fingers crossed.

  • Hello

    @ctietze
    thanks for the good description of Setevi. Yes you could say the main feature of Setevi is, to open links always in place.

    I wrote a mail to Rene giving him some material he could use to code the export.

  • @fbb This is awesome! Thank you so much! I received everything needed to create a rough prototype. Will check it out, should have more time to play with it this evening. I am excited, would be interesting to see how an export, or a partial one, of an actual Zettelkasten looks like. Will put stuff on github soon.

  • edited February 22

    That's awesome, go @rene! :)

    Note: I split the script writing progress into another thread: Rene's Setevi Converter Script

    Author at Zettelkasten.de • http://christiantietze.de/

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